Reader’s Note #1: The following post is about yet one more expensive blob of scientific research To the question “What do women really want?” some men will answer “Money,” others will answer “Who the hell knows?” and those of a more prurient bent will answer “Seven inches or more.”
Reader’s Note #2: Life in the Boomer Lane recently posted a commentary on “The Universal Hot/Crazy Matrix: A Man’s Guide to Women.” She has noticed since then that this remains far and away her most popular post to date, indicating to her either a serious interest on men’s part to understand women or a serious belief that hot women are crazy. This post may serve to demystify.
Here goes with the post: A study published in Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin recently found that while men were attracted to nice-seeming women upon meeting them, women did not feel the same way about men. Researchers from the University of Rochester, the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and the Interdisciplinary Center (IDC) Herzliya in Israel investigated a possible mechanism explaining why women and men differ in their sexual reactions with receptive opposite-sex strangers.
Let us stop here for a moment and remind ourselves that throughout time, many women have been attracted to “the Bad Boy.” This Bad Boy is personified by the motorcycle-riding high school dropout who has more tattoos than brain cells. Movies like “Dirty Dancing,” “Saturday Night Fever,” and “The Wild One” glorify their own versions of Bad Boys. The pattern is similar: Bad Boy (actually more confused/misguided/pitiful than bad) is hot/really hot/really hot and a great dancer. Nice girl falls in love with him, discovering in the end that his flaws are too much to handle. She goes back to wherever she came from and marries a Jewish dentist. Now back to the research:
One hundred and twelve undergraduate students were split evenly between men and women, and participants were paired randomly with an opposite-sex individual they hadn’t met before. The study examined burgeoning sexual interest and the participants’ feelings on the possibility of long-term dating with their new “partners,” and how those connected to their perceptions of a personality trait the study calls “responsiveness.” As the lead researcher put it, “Sexual desire thrives on rising intimacy and being responsive is one of the best ways to instill this elusive sensation over time.”
But what the researchers found was pretty darn surprising (to them). Men found responsive women more feminine and attractive. When women encountered a responsive man, they were less attracted to that person. Let’s bring this down to a more basic level for those readers who are eating a bacon cheeseburger while they are reading this: In an initial encounter, men liked nice women. Women thought nice men were blah.
The second study required participants to engage with either a responsive or unresponsive person of the opposite sex, then interact with them online while detailing a current problem in their life. The goal here was to remove the potentially confounding elements of live social interaction (smiling, physical attractiveness) to see if they could isolate how much responsiveness—or niceness—played into attraction.
Again, the men in the study thought responsive and attentive women were more attractive as potential partners, while women found men with those same traits to be something yucky they stepped in and it stuck to the bottom of their shoes.
The third and final study presented in the paper sought to test specifically whether the mechanism by which “responsiveness” motivated individuals to pursue relationships was, in fact, sexual arousal. To do so, they replicated the second study, but added a specific measure of sexual attraction. They then found that when men found women to be responsive, it led to a heightened sexual arousal among men. That, in turn led to greater desire for a relationship. Same result: Men found responsiveness to be sexually desirable. Women kept their panties firmly in place.
Researchers are still unsure why women are less sexually attracted to responsive strangers than men. They have theories. LBL scoffs at the theories.
LBL can save these researchers a lot of time and trouble. She has her own theory as to why many women are attracted to bad/elusive/unapproachable men. It’s simple. The ultimate coup isn’t getting a nice, sweet guy to like you. He likes everyone, right? The brass ring is getting someone to like you who is not available or approachable. He rides in on a motorcycle or walks in wearing a wedding band or isn’t taking his meds. He’s scary and dangerous and exactly what mom warned us about. And we go right there. The goal, of course, is that he will fall in love with us and stop riding the bike or wearing the wedding band or will start taking his meds. In other words, we will change him to become more like the men we weren’t attracted to in the first place.
Most women realize before too long that perhaps the Bad Boy wasn’t such a good idea after all, and they end up with the Good Man. Others make a career chasing after the Bad Boy, usually with predictable results. A small number end up with the Bad Boy, who really does have a heart of gold, and somehow the relationship works. A very, very small number. In Hollywood and in real life, these Bad Boys who make good do so because they finally reach an age in which they are simply too tired to continue doing what they have been doing. Settling down becomes all they are capable of. Congrats on the marriage, George Clooney.
The answer to the question “What do women really want?” is that, ultimately, we all want to be loved and valued. We just may take different paths to get there or never get there. If we aren’t lucky, we might fall off a lot of motorcycles in the process. If we are, we might become really swell dancers.
morristownmemos by Ronnie Hammer
October 6, 2014
Taming the bad boy is the fun challenge; doing what nobody else was able to do… NOT that I’d know from personal experience, of course.
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
Me neither.
Val Boyko
October 6, 2014
Yes indeed! We may be attracted to the bad guy … but choosing the good guy for life makes a lot more sense 🙂
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
Absolutely.
Sylvia Morice
October 6, 2014
Wow–you need to contact the researchers immediately, inform them that you have solved the mystery of sexual attraction and ask for, nay, demand, they hand over their likely substantial government grants that support their studies. Just think of all the dancing lessons you could pay for then! LOL. Great post!
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
Thanks, Sylvia. Yes, I keep posting about doofus research, waiting for the International Research Council to notice me and just start funneling money my way.
notquiteold
October 6, 2014
The other side of the explanation: Men want sex. A responsive woman means they may get some. They are aroused. End of story. Women are a bit pickier.
I do agree with the bad boy settling down from eventual exhaustion. Congrats, George.
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
A wise observation. Maybe the next study will show that, at an initial meeting, men are more responsive to women who have several buttons undone on their blouses. How much money would be thrown at that study?
patti
October 6, 2014
Totally agree with notquiteold on this one.
katecrimmins
October 6, 2014
The bad boy settling down after getting too old to continue is on target. Besides George, I have an “ex” as exhibit 1. I do notice that both selected women young enough to be their daughters. I love your sex articles. They have opened up a whole new world of research.
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
I am happy to keep providing you with sex articles, Kate. There seems to be a never-ending supply of material.
btg5885
October 6, 2014
Renee, you are always interesting, profound and provocative. I think the study in some ways validates the old saying “the woman picks the man.” There are few things more attractive to a man than a woman who is interested in him. I am glad the one that has let me hang around for 30 years showed her interest. BTG
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
Thanks, as always, BTG for your positive support. Based on all of your comments, I think your wife is one lucky woman.
Susan in TX
October 6, 2014
As the saying goes . . . The Alpha Male gets the girl, but the Beta Male keeps her. Thanks for the morning smiles. Now back to writing about sex. Having trouble getting my H/h in bed.
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
Ah, so true. Are you writing about sex, as well? We should have a National Sex Day for bloggers.
praw27
October 6, 2014
Sad truth…Some women never outgrow the desire for the Bad Boys…
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
Yes, and many don’t understand what they are doing wrong.
An Ordinary Man (the novel)
October 6, 2014
as a relatively tall man who HLP (think HWP in personal ads), and who has been both wealthy and poor in the course of the same relationship, but always faithful, i have a different answer: they want Brad Pitt (or some other flavor-of-the-month). money, sex, love, and fidelity won’t seal the deal unless you also happen to be movie-star handsome & ripped. you might be able to get Brad, ladies, for a while, but Angelina Jolie is always out there. boils down to mateness points & evolution.
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
A wise person, disguised as one of my children, noted that people usually ended up with others who are the same number on the attractiveness scale. I think it was a wise observation. The ones who don’t usually have money and/or power on their side or are in for disappointment.
An Ordinary Man (the novel)
October 6, 2014
Reblogged this on An Ordinary Man and commented:
this is great!
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
Thanks for the reblog!
meyerslaura
October 6, 2014
Men will never know what women want because women never know what women want (true story).
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
I think that does apply to many women. Hopefully, with age and experience, they recover.
menomama3
October 6, 2014
Think of the millions that could be saved if only these silly researchers contacted you first.
My favourite bit: “Bad Boys who make good do so because they finally reach an age in which they are simply too tired to continue doing what they have been doing. Settling down becomes all they are capable of. Congrats on the marriage, George Clooney.”
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
Thanks! I also love how these men then say the women they end up marrying are the loves of their lives. Interesting that it didn’t happen until post 50 (or 60).
Sunshinebright
October 6, 2014
Very interesting and entertaining post. I was never attracted to the “bad boy.” Know what? I had two wonderful marriages with two great guys.
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
You are lucky, indeed.
ermigal
October 6, 2014
You hit the nail on the head, LBL on so many points, but bottom line is that the researchers should be checking with you on what the Real Deal is! “We all want to be loved and valued.” Amen, sister. 🙂
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
Thanks. I keep waiting for them to call me before starting the research, but my phone remains silent.
Lorna's Voice
October 7, 2014
And all this time I thought women wanted chocolate. 😉
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 7, 2014
That’s what they REALLY want.
Kristal Hollis
October 7, 2014
Reblogged this on Kristal Hollis and commented:
Life in the Boomer Lane demystifies the ultimate mystery…
Life in the Boomer Lane
October 8, 2014
Thanks for the reblog, Kristal!
benzeknees
December 16, 2014
I think, for some of us, we need to go through a couple “bad boys” to be able to appreciate the nice guy. For me, I loved a bad boy, I will probably always love him, but I married the nice guy. My marriage isn’t the same as my relationship with the “bad boy” but it’s comfortable & suits me now. The “bad boy” introduced me to variations of my personality I didn’t know I had & for 5 years I was able to revel in being less than the “good girl.”